Yes we are angry!
By cjmybad ~
I remember reading another post about ‘Tired of the Anger’ and we Atheists wouldn’t have so much anger if the religious people didn’t give us things to be angry about! Case in point:
We finally made a truce in the family not discuss religion at all when we get together but we keep noticing differences in my sister. He won’t let her drive unless absolutely necessary, she can’t talk on the phone without him listening, she has no hobbies unless it’s the church activities that he approves of or it’s knitting gifts for the family. They can’t visit her children (from a previous marriage) unless it is under his terms and supervision, they aren’t christians at all, they are humanists and they are considered unsaved and that means she looses out on her grandchildren (doesn’t bother him, he doesn’t like kids).
But today we were looking at some clothes that someone had given my mother, we always pass around clothes, books, kitchen stuff, recipes, etc and it’s nice because we have a chance to get something we like and we have the chance to pass around things that we aren’t using any more. So my sister looked at the long skirts (church clothes – aargh!) and picked out a few she liked to bring home. When her husband saw the clothes he immediately said ‘what’s all that!’ and she meekly showed him a few of the skirts and he shook his head and said ‘ I don’t like that’ and ‘no –that’s not good’ to almost everything in the bag! They were really nice long skirts with flowers on them and he was telling her no – this woman is almost 60 years old!! My sister was blushing and humiliated in from of us all by his words. I said ‘ well it’s a good thing you’re not wearing them if you don’t like them’. She said she would try them on later and let him see what they looked like and then they left.
Now at one time my sister was a beautiful, proud, independent, fun loving, good person and now she is just a meek, yes dear, sad, pitiful shell of a person, religion took all that away from us, she lost out on her children and her grandchildren and now probably the rest of us. Here is what the bible says;
Also that women should adorn themselves modestly and sensibly in seemly apparel, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly attire but by good deeds, as befits women who profess religion. Let a woman learn in silence with all submissiveness. I permit no woman to teach or to have authority over men; she is to keep silent.
In Ephesians 5:22-24 we find this: "Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything."
As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.
And I say ‘yes sometimes us atheists are angry and we have good reason for it!”
I remember reading another post about ‘Tired of the Anger’ and we Atheists wouldn’t have so much anger if the religious people didn’t give us things to be angry about! Case in point:
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We saw my sister who lives 8 hours away and she and her husband recently became really, really born again baptists. They weren’t really religious before just regulalr kind of cathloics attending on holy days and holidays. Then some things happened in their lives and they hit rock bottom. So that’s when they turned to be saved ‘by the lord’ and I just said ‘whatever - just stop trying to jam your beliefs down our throats’. I was just starting my deconversion and had things going on in my life as well but I wasn’t getting any of my prayers answered.We finally made a truce in the family not discuss religion at all when we get together but we keep noticing differences in my sister. He won’t let her drive unless absolutely necessary, she can’t talk on the phone without him listening, she has no hobbies unless it’s the church activities that he approves of or it’s knitting gifts for the family. They can’t visit her children (from a previous marriage) unless it is under his terms and supervision, they aren’t christians at all, they are humanists and they are considered unsaved and that means she looses out on her grandchildren (doesn’t bother him, he doesn’t like kids).
But today we were looking at some clothes that someone had given my mother, we always pass around clothes, books, kitchen stuff, recipes, etc and it’s nice because we have a chance to get something we like and we have the chance to pass around things that we aren’t using any more. So my sister looked at the long skirts (church clothes – aargh!) and picked out a few she liked to bring home. When her husband saw the clothes he immediately said ‘what’s all that!’ and she meekly showed him a few of the skirts and he shook his head and said ‘ I don’t like that’ and ‘no –that’s not good’ to almost everything in the bag! They were really nice long skirts with flowers on them and he was telling her no – this woman is almost 60 years old!! My sister was blushing and humiliated in from of us all by his words. I said ‘ well it’s a good thing you’re not wearing them if you don’t like them’. She said she would try them on later and let him see what they looked like and then they left.
Now at one time my sister was a beautiful, proud, independent, fun loving, good person and now she is just a meek, yes dear, sad, pitiful shell of a person, religion took all that away from us, she lost out on her children and her grandchildren and now probably the rest of us. Here is what the bible says;
Also that women should adorn themselves modestly and sensibly in seemly apparel, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly attire but by good deeds, as befits women who profess religion. Let a woman learn in silence with all submissiveness. I permit no woman to teach or to have authority over men; she is to keep silent.
In Ephesians 5:22-24 we find this: "Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything."
As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.
And I say ‘yes sometimes us atheists are angry and we have good reason for it!”
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